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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2011, 19:30 
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Can anyone help ?

Where is the ADRC95218 now? or by its old number 941599

Any help is apreciated

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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2011, 20:25 
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Checking the other pages on the website.
95218 is at Crewe Heritage centre.
95219 was scrapped no details

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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2011, 22:38 
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Just to avoid confusion, ADRC95218 had its number changed to ADRC96719 when it was converted from steam to diesel-hydraulic, and it carries that later number at Crewe.

ADRC95219 (later ADRC96720) was the Cambridge crane that attended the aftermath of the 1944 wartime explosion in Soham (carrying LNER number 961606 at the time).


Last edited by David Withers on 11 Jan 2011, 22:54, edited 2 times in total.
Correction to LNER number


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PostPosted: 11 Jan 2011, 02:35 
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ADRC95218 was supplied to the LNER in Feb 1940 and allocated to New England numbered 941599 later DE330110, later moving to March (Feb 1968) then Healey Mills c.1980.

Following an accident c. 1968 the original jib was replaced with an all-welded jib with an articulated foot. In August 1986 the crane was converted to Diesel Hydraulic power at Derby Locomotive Works, renumbered ADRC 96719, transferred to the Southern Region, and allocated to Brighton where it spent the rest of its mailine career. By 1994 it had been nominated as "National Spare" but remained at Brighton. It was withdrawn and sold to Phillips Scrap Metals in April 1997 for scrapping, but remained at Brighton OOU until at least 1999.

In 2000 it was resold to Waterman Railways and in May 2001 was moved to Crewe Railway Heritage Centre, where, following an overhaul and repaint it is in regular use.

The net result of the replacemment jib and the diesel conversion however means that its appearance has changed considerably from its steam powered days, and it looks far more modern that it actually is.

If anyone knows the details of the 1968 accident that resulted in the new jib being fitted (presumably the crane toppled and the jib was bent) I would love to hear about it.

ADRC95219 was supplied to the LNER in 1940 and allocated to Cambridge with the number 961606, later DE330133. Later it was transferred to Stratford, subsequently Inverness.

In January 1987 is was converted to Diesel power at Derby Locomotive Works and renumbered ADRC96720. After conversion it was transferred to Southern Region and allocated to Chart Leacon, then Stewarts Lane (as the SR Relief Crane), finally to Electrification Department at Paddock Wood. It was withdrawn in July 1994 and scrapped at Ashford by Coopers Metals.

In addition to attending the famous Soham incident, this crane has another unusual claim to fame - it was the prototype for the Hornby Dublo model.

These two cranes were part of a batch of six identical cranes supplied to the LNER by Cowans Sheldon shortly before the war. 95218 is now the sole survivor of the six; two were requisitioned by the WD and were sent overseas, never to return, and the other two were both scrapped in the early 1990s.


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PostPosted: 11 Jan 2011, 22:51 
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Roger Cooke wrote:
ADRC95218 was supplied to the LNER in Feb 1940 and allocated to New England numbered 941599 later DE330110, later moving to March (Feb 1968) then Healey Mills c.1980.


ADE330110 can be seen here at March in 1976 - http://pics-by-john.photoblog.org.uk/p48310161.html


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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2011, 10:44 
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The quote below was posted by Roger Cooke:
"If anyone knows the details of the 1968 accident that resulted in the new jib being fitted (presumably the crane toppled and the jib was bent) I would love to hear about it."

Roger, it might be an idea to contact Mr Geoffrey Gardner, Peyton Avenue, March, Cambs.

Sadly this man is, like the rest of us, 'getting on a bit' and he is also blind! But this is the man who actually cut the old jib off the crane after it was damaged. He was a permanent member of the breakdown crew ... and a really great guy!

Hope this will help you.


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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2011, 14:53 
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Colin, very many thanks for this info, we will try to contact him for the story.

I get great satisfaction from posts like this, since it was precisely for this sort of thing that the BDCA was set up.

Best wishes,

Roger


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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2011, 23:01 
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Colin,

I've pondered over that replacement jib question several times and look forward to your good work providing the answer!

Since Geoffrey Gardner is blind, I presume that a letter posted to him might be an inconvenience. He doesn't appear in the telephone directory, though there is a J Gardner at 25 Jubilee Court, Elwyn Rd (tel: 01354 652558) who may be related.

I'd be happy to come over to March if Geoffrey Gardner would be willing for us to have a chat with him at his home. Do you think we'd be welcomed?


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PostPosted: 08 Jun 2011, 08:00 
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I have no reason to believe that you would not be made welcome. I guess he is frustrated by his situation and the loss of his sight (partial or otherwise). Who knows what stories he would come up with and could probably direct you to other remaining members of the 'crew'.


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PostPosted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:53 
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Many years ago, when I worked for EWS in the VAB section at Toton, I was dispatched to Brighton to look at ADRC96219 (the Now LNWR one), for potential movement by rail.

A week or so earlier, Eric Reilly also Toton (breakdown gang), also looked at it, we both came to the same conclusion, that it was in excellent condition.

However, it couldnt move for a couple of reasons,
1,one of the Stokes bogies had water ingress in the axle bearing, this needed to be changed.
2, Railtrack (as it was then), wouldnt allow it to move as although I had conducted a formal brake test on it, wouldnt allow it to be moved as there was no proven block loadings!
3, Because of (2), LNWR were to send a suitable brake force down to put behind the crane.

Anyhow, I deemed it as fit for movement, and a loco and coaches were dispatched to Brighton.
Now the train was to depart Brighton and run at 20mph for the first 10 miles, were all of the bearings should be checked, then forward at 25mph and checked again, if all was well then 45mph back to Crewe.

BUT,

This wasnt conveyed to the crew of the loco, and it set off and ran all the way at 60! (i followed it on TOPS).

But it arrived safely and alls been well since!

Cheers

Simon


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